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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.  Sandstein  12:34, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rutaba Yaqub[edit]

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doesn't satisfy WP:MUSICIAN. two sources are not Reliable enough to be cited here. Saqib (talk) 05:11, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Dysklyver 14:04, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Dysklyver 14:04, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Dysklyver 14:04, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I've since added a further two obviously reliable sources, which are not simply rehashes of the earlier material. The article in The Express Tribune is non-trivial (she is one of two artists discussed, although in less detail than the first). The second article from Public Radio International is about her reaction to the death of Junaid Jamshed, although the article title doesn't make that obvious. It obvious from the first line of the article however, which reads "Growing up, musician Rutaba Yaqub loved listening to Junaid Jamshed.". So that now makes four obviously reliable sources, although two of those four are about roughly the same thing (just with different details). So three different stories in four reliable sources, which are either websites of print media or public radio broadcasters. Miyagawa (talk) 18:55, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Miyagawa: I still think in-depth coverage on the subject is missing. also i don't see the subject meeting WP:MUSICBIO. --Saqib (talk) 05:25, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I see it meeting the very first criteria "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." There's now three/four references that meet that, which covers the "multiple" part. As for in-depth coverage, that isn't a requirement under Wikipedia:Notability (music). I've had a look, and the only mention of in depth coverage related to notability is for WP:INDEPTH, which is in relation to individual events, not biographies. The requirement there is "multiple", not in-depth. Miyagawa (talk) 08:56, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Miyagawa makes a good case for her passing MUSICBIO. this source also mentions that she will be released shortly on Patari Aslis. Patari is "Pakistan's largest audio streaming platform." Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:34, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep since no particular notability issues. Unclear why she was nominated. gidonb (talk) 23:28, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep significantly discussed in two independent sources. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:41, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I agree with Saqib that the person has not been mentioned in enough independent sources, and the links are quite related, referring to the same details and information. Quantumavik (talk) 06:56, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Define "enough". Right now there's four that easily meet the reliable and independent source since they're all print newspapers or international radio organisations. One from The Express Tribune in 2013, two from Public Radio International in 2016 and one from The News International in 2017. Pick a number, and tell me where to find that number in the actual policies. Miyagawa (talk) 09:09, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note I've just reverted a whole bunch of edits that Saqib made to the article, which removed sources and added unsourced material that hasn't been mentioned anywhere. Miyagawa (talk) 09:03, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have started a thread at User_talk:Miyagawa#Rutaba_Yaqub. I expect you to respond. --Saqib (talk) 09:29, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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