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best known as the vocalist of Guns N' Roses???

"Best known"??? What the hell else is he noteworthy for?

Being one of the greatest frontmen of all time. Bucketheader 12:49, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article is filled with unsourced information

This article needs a complete re-work. I have removed a ton of claims from the article that have no sources. Before anyone attempts a rewrite I would suggest that you take a look at Wikipedia's guidelines for writing a biography of living persons at WP:BIO. Unsourced negative information must be removed IMMEDIATELY. We cannot use blogs and personal websites as sources for such information. You must use reliable secondary sources to make these claims. Vivaldi (talk) 11:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stripped?

This article seems to be stripped of a whole lot of information. Nothing on his relationships, some of his feuds, Erins miscarrage, and other notable things. Its only about early life, Look at You Game Girl, and Chinese Democracy.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.223.107.220 (talk) 18:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article was stripped because this is a biography of living person and as such, as editors, we must be held to a higher standard than other articles. The specific rules you need to read regarding this are found at WP:BLP. Blogs and personal web pages of fans and fan clubs are not acceptable to be used as sources for an encyclopedia article about a living person. If you need to learn what a reliable source is check out WP:RS for more information. I'd love to see this article expanded to include his relationships and other information, but not if it means we resort to using personal webpages of GNR fans as sources for our information. Vivaldi (talk) 06:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia integration? Why?

Trivia section is relevent, and should remain.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pro-trivia (talk • contribs) 22:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the information in the trivia section is relevant. The problem is that encyclopedias do not include "Trivia" sections in their articles. If the information is important enough to be discussed and it pertains to Axl Rose, then the information ought to be integrated into the article text in appropriate places. One popular place for many trivia items is "Pop culture references". A section titled "Trivia" is non-encyclopedic. Vivaldi (talk) 03:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
i responded on your talk, as you inquired as to why i placed the tag on this page. if the information is relevant, there should not be a problem in the integration. however, if it is interesting (i personally find trivia interesting), but not important, it should go. plz see Wikipedia:Avoid_trivia_sections_in_articles. the_undertow talk 04:14, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Axl Rose is the name he is notable for

On Wikipedia we use the name that a person is most notable under. In nearly every source that refers to Axl Rose in the media he is referred to as Axl Rose and not "W. Axl Rose". We don't put "Tom Cruise" under "Thomas Mapother" or even "Thomas Cruise", because neither of those names are what he is best known by. I don't mind if you want to mention that Axl Rose's full legal name is "W. Axl Rose", but you'll need to provide a reliable source to make that claim in the article. The first sentence should discuss "Axl Rose", the name he is notable for, and not "W. Axl Rose", which nobody ever calls him in popular culture or otherwise. Vivaldi (talk) 21:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's true. And he did change is name to Axl Rose so it is his official name. Course, the W. stands for something but either way, your right, we should reference him as Axl Rose as just Rose. Not everything has to be so formal. And also, why is there a picture of him from 2006? Why not one from 1985, when the band was founded? MaulYoda 00:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All i think is that the article should BEGIN with W. Axl Rose not be called that or call him that all the way through the article because he is more commonly known as 'Axl Rose'. His name has never been 'Axl Rose'. In 1985, he changed his name to 'W. Axl Rose' the 'W' is not an abbreviation. Bucketheader 09:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If he did legally change his name, those court documents are public records and should be obtainable. Finding them and citing them would go a long way to putting an end to the edit war. -- Upholder 15:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know anything about America or it's court documents. Can they be easily found on the internet? Bucketheader 16:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Many court documents are available on the Internet and many are not. The first problem you'll have to overcome is discovering what state and what county that the proceeding occurred in. The rules for legally changing ones name vary state by state. Usually it is handled by the local county civil court, but sometimes a Superior Court or probate court may handle the case. I think it would be easier to find a secondary source for this claim rather than the primary court document (if it is in fact true that W. Axl Rose is his legal name, rather than just a name that he sometimes uses in certain circumstances).

credits and reversion

after reading the imdb source, if you want to mention his credits, it's probably correct to say he is 'most often' credited as w axl rose. looking at the ref, this would be true. the_undertow talk 01:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anagram of "Axl Rose"

Am I the only person to realise that "Axl Rose" is an anagram of "Oral Sex"? Arkyopterix 14:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. Bucketheader 14:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Name

There is no need for a third opinion as there is a reliable source which states his correct name. Maurauth, thanks for your edits, but they are incorrect; his name has never been 'Axl Rose'; he was born 'William Rose', grew up as 'William Bailey' and then changed his name to 'W. Axl Rose'. The 'W.' is not an abbreviation, he chose that because he didn't want to share a name with his father and 'Axl' comes from a pre-Guns N' Roses band he was in called 'A.X.L', please understand this and not start an "edit war" like your, and mine, previous edits have created. This is a well-known fact and there is a source in the article for this. Bucketheader 13:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That source is just an article written by a random person, there's no official source to prove that he changed his name to W. Axl Rose. If you wanna show a reference by him, or show a credit to him with it, eg. GnR website / CD. Maurauth 14:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
AllMusicGuide is a reliable wikipedia source. And, i have shown you official Guns N' Roses music videos which show his name as ' W. Axl Rose'.Bucketheader 14:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
this is getting ridiculous here. axl's been w. axl rose for ages... i think there are enough references for that out there. let's look at it this way: if his name's officially axl rose (without the w) get a reference for that... please note: i'm not a g 'n' r fan, or an axl fan or anything of the sort. i just know my history. joseph 17:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think you'll find many more references calling him 'Axl Rose' than 'W. Axl Rose'. Maurauth 21:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but they won't reference his name as 'Axl Rose', they'll just refer to him as that. You see, anyone who knows anything about Rose, or GN'R, or even rock music for that matter, knows what his name is. Bucketheader 22:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well I'll admit I don't know much about the guy, but I know a HELL of a lot about rock music, infact that's one of the things in my life that I know the most about. How can you tell the difference betwen referencing and refering... Maurauth 22:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What might have happened is that Axl Rose never legally changed his name, but rather, like most Hollywood celebs, just adopted a stage name of "W. Axl Rose" or just "Axl Rose". There isn't any need for him to actually go through a legal proceeding to make this change. This is just as John Mellencamp at one time used to call himself John Cougar. Vivaldi (talk) 08:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox colour

Is there something wrong with my computer, or is there no colour in the infobox when it's supposed to be yellow. 75pickup (talk · contribs) 17:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

its grayish-blue on mine (an apple macbook G5). what kind of computer are you using?
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