Talk:World Chess Championship 1984–1985

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Combine with 1985 match?

I wonder whether this article should be renamed to World Chess Championship 1984-1985 and include the 1985 match.

Pros:

It solves the problem of allocating a winner to the 1984 match in other places such as Template:World Chess Championships. (Then again I've just altered the template to create another solution).
The two matches were part of the same cycle. (Then again so were the 1958, 1961 and 1986 rematches).
The 1984 match was unfinished, so it's not the same as the rematches in 1958, 1961 and 1986.
The 1984 match actually went into 1985, so merging the articles prevents messy naming.

Cons:

Some (most?) sources speak of them as separate matches, e.g. Mark Weeks' chess pages and Raymond Keene's book on the 1986 match both number the 1984, 1985 and 1986 matches as the first, second and third Karpov-Kasparov matches respectively.

Peter Ballard (talk) 03:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'd keep them separate. In addition to the con that you mention (most sources consider the matches separate), there's also the issue of length. This article could (and should) be expanded substantially. The Candidates Matches are discussed only very briefly, and we don't even list the cities for most of the matches. There's essentially no discussion of the individual games in the championship, which makes sense for most of the draws but not the decisive games and a few near misses. Also, there's a lot more to be said (based on good sources) about the extremely controversial termination of the match. I don't generally advocate creating little articles in the anticipation that some day they may be too large if they had instead been kept together (write the main article first, split later as needed is a better policy), but here we have an extremely natural division and the article is already separate and not that small even in its current incomplete state. This may seem to be (or maybe just is) inconsistent with my opinion that Interregnum of World Chess Champions should be merged into World Chess Championship 1948, but I tried to explain the reasons for that suggestion at Talk:Interregnum of World Chess Champions. Quale (talk) 04:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length of the match?

Wouldn't it be useful to state how long the match took in time? The article only mentions the 48 games, and it's unclear for readers unfamiliar with chess tournaments if they happened in a day, a week or half a year.

This is especially interesting to interpret the claim that Karpov had lost 10 kg during the match and to understand how critical was the decision to stop it.

(I have only elementary knowledge of chess and very vague knowledge of chess tournaments. I can imagine world championship games taking less than half an hour or a few days (as in the case of Go), which can take the match anywhere between 16 hours and six months.) bogdanb (talk) 23:23, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point! The match lasted about 5 months.[1] I'll add this to the article. Peter Ballard (talk) 23:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lies in article

This is a very bad article - perpetuating the myths and lies surrounding this championship match. Read for example what is written on Edward Winter's Chess notes. Kasparov asked for the match to be abandoned - so how could he then be extremely resentful of Campomanes decision? Abandoning the match improved his chances of winning. A real, reliable, citation is needed for the weight loss and health claims. I have ever heard of Mark Weeks and have no idea why his website is being used as a reliable source.--ZincBelief (talk) 13:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC) For example http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/child.html or http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/fidefacts.html[reply]

Where was the match played?

The article does not mention any city/venue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.172.74.37 (talk) 11:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keene's new article regarding this match

If anyone has time, please incorporate this piece into the article.

https://www.thearticle.com/chess-two-cases-of-cancel-culture

Kingturtle = (talk) 07:19, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Karpov says 6-0 would have destroyed Kasparov?

I know it is cited [2], but it seems nonsense to me. If Kasparov was liable to be "psychologically destroyed" by a 6-0 loss, surely he would have folded when he was down 4-0 after 9 games, or when he was eventually down 5-0. It would be good to get a response from Kasparov or one of his defenders. Adpete (talk) 07:42, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]