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::Thanks, I appreciate it. And I agree about LilWayneHQ and Stacks, I'll look for replacements for those. But I think [[HipHopDX]] is reliable, it's one of the main hip hop sites around.--[[User:Bernie44|Bernie44]] ([[User talk:Bernie44|talk]]) 01:35, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks, I appreciate it. And I agree about LilWayneHQ and Stacks, I'll look for replacements for those. But I think [[HipHopDX]] is reliable, it's one of the main hip hop sites around.--[[User:Bernie44|Bernie44]] ([[User talk:Bernie44|talk]]) 01:35, 22 September 2016 (UTC)


:::It's not substantially different aside from the discography formatting, so I've retagged it. I think we need to consider that this is paid editing from the subject as well; this time it's just not his manager/agent doing it, and frankly, I want to know why this guy thinks he needs a Wikipedia page so bad, as we aren't an advertising platform. [[User:MSJapan|MSJapan]] ([[User talk:MSJapan|talk]]) 01:48, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
:::It's not substantially different aside from the discography formatting, so I've retagged it. I think we need to consider that this is paid editing from the subject as well; this time it's just not his manager/agent doing it, and frankly, I want to know why this guy thinks he needs a Wikipedia page so bad, as we aren't an advertising platform. We're not going to keep COI material just because the guy who wanted it paid a third party to do it. [[User:MSJapan|MSJapan]] ([[User talk:MSJapan|talk]]) 01:48, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks to laptop screen dying back in July I'm currently using a TV monitor until I can be bothered to replace the laptop screen! ....
Anyway I won't be surprised that me replacing the screen will kill the entire laptop so if I disappear that'll be why ,
Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 17:01, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
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Car designers

Instead of assuming I'm making things up, would it have hurt you to assume good faith, look to see if the people I posted are actually worked on those cars and help improve those articles? Or am I asking too much from you?--Guiletheme (talk) 14:59, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I never said that, You added names to an infobox without backing it up, Why should I ? ... You added the names so how about you source it, It's not my job to start sourcing because other editors couldn't be arsed, If you don't want your edits reverted then source them like everyone else on this project (and whilst I'm ranting - If I added someones to an ib or whatever I too would expect to be reverted), Everything here requires a source and you should know that as you've been here since 2012. –Davey2010Talk 16:09, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] made me laugh out loud. Thanks, I needed that. As you often do, you brought things back down to earth. Thanks for that! -- WV 03:30, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Winkelvi Haha no worries, Ironically I was being serious ... I may just rename all of his images , You could start doing some normal name move requests over there, Get the file mover right, and then we can both start renaming everything I mean afterall sharing is caring & all that , –Davey2010Talk 03:39, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        • Check this [2] out. He's not only discounted two !votes (for reasons which are unclear to me) but has refused to acknowledge the two new ones. Interesting. -- WV 04:16, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
          • Wow the discussion over there is getting better and better by the second! , Fancy becoming an admin and then blocking them  ? .... I'd thoroughly enjoying blocking everyone in that discussion that doesn't support E . –Davey2010Talk 12:57, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
            • Your suggestion is how I imagine the first year or so of Wikipedia before the "kinder, gentler" 'Pedia admins came into being. Rogue admins blocking in a prison guard sort of fashion: "Look at me the wrong way and I will flip your dinner tray onto the floor and make you eat it from there in front of everyone! Grrrr...". Lol -- WV 14:50, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Guerin Austin

@PageantUpdater: You have one deliberately revised, weakened ivote for redirect, one for redirect, from an individual I have now revealed to be voting reflexively without reading the article and two votes for Keep but you choose to obliterate the article and redirect? How do you arrive at this decision? OK, I had not posted the note yet, See here. It still should be obvious this editor could only compose a three word sentence. And that carries more weight, how? You could have looked at the article to see their one and (a possible) had less substance. What is most offensive is you are giving his bad faith editor a win. See here. So he didn't get sanctioned but his damage remains. All this does is encourage the bad behavior. At the time you deleted the article there were seven sources {WP:GNG should be met), primarily revolving around two incidents in her life, Miss Nebraska and the Gatorade incident which got substantial coverage. WP:BLP1E is not an argument as it is in so many cases. What grounds were cited for redirect? I urge you to rethink your decision. Trackinfo (talk) 09:02, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

1- Trackinfo That ANI discussion was closed as No Consensus and so it has no relevence here, Stop poking the bear
2 - PagentUpdater's !vote was even worse and yet I don't see you moaning about them .... I wonder why...., Anyway consensus is always to redirect the non-notable pagents and this AFD was no different, The redirect had the strongest arguement out of them all but ofcourse had you provided sources to back up your claims it may of been a different matter - All !keeps need to provide sources which you failed to do, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 10:26, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
consensus is always to redirect the non-notable pagents please demonstrate this. I added four sources to the Gatorade incident including CBS Sports. Where did I fail to add sources? Trackinfo (talk) 20:35, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Trackinfo - Well I kind of have just demonstrated it lol, You never stated once you added sources to the article so without sounding like a dick I'm not a mind reader, The sources IMHO are pretty crap however I'm relisting anyway. –Davey2010Talk 21:28, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What happened?

Hey, man. I hope you know my last comments to you were simply on the humorous side because we've had that kind of on-Wiki relationship in the past. -- WV 00:35, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just saw your uncharacteristic comments at AN3. Okay, you're disappointed in me. Not sure why. Policy is policy, no matter whose talk page comments/signature is altered or why. To edit war over something that is against policy is stupid and disruptive and should be reported. If you want to leave over this, then I'll say I'm not disappointed in you, just confused over your decision. But, it's your choice, nonetheless, and I've never been one to stand in the way of what seems to be a lack-of-good-sleep knee-jerk exit that will (hopefully) be seen differently in the light of day by the one doing the exiting. Take care. -- WV 00:45, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Winkelvi - Before I rant and rave I appreciate you sticking by TPO and helping out I honestly do and I too a point understand why you've edit warred but in all honestly do you think this was worth edit warring over ?, I never thought about making it public about me agreeing to it because I never thought it'd be an issue,
I've seen silly wars in my time but this IMHO was the most silliest and I reached a point today where I thought "Is this seriously what this place has become ?, Edit warring over a f**king timestamp..." and I just lost all faith here and just didn't want to be apart of it anymore, Sure I've got pissed off in the past, Walked away, had a cuppa and came back with a fresh mind but I've never in the 3 years of being here actually wanted to go as much I have today ... I honestly sat outside at 2 in the morning, had a cuppa and debated or not whether to have this entire account indeffed I honestly did, As you can see I've realized there's positives to this site aswell and in all honestly I didn't think it was worth buggering off over,
Anyway I apologize for the rant at AN3 - You were only doing what you thought was right and I deeply deeply appreciate that but yeah I just really didn't see the need to war over it,
Aaaaaaanywaaaay it's a new day and all that - Lets forget today ever happened and just move on but I again apologize for the rant over there :)
TL565 - As much as I appreciate you helping out I would ask infuture if I or anyone makes a mistake with something to simply let me/them know first, I don't really have a problem as such but it's always best to let the person know instead of changing it yourself as it prevents edit warring and in all fairness to WV there's plenty of people here that stick to TPO which is a great thing,
Thanks & Happy editing to you both, –Davey2010Talk 01:49, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the wishes, but it looks like it's me who is going to be leaving for good. It's not worth the drama anymore. My time on Wikipedia has been long but it's time for me to bow out. TL565 (talk) 03:13, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
TL565 - Could I make a suggestion ? .... You both stay away from each other and just enjoy the site and focus on editing ? ..... Having been here for 3 years the site certainly has its downs and at times you feel like smashing your face repeatedly against a brick wall .... but the site also has its ups and you can make alot of great friends here... Despite me at times being a grumpy bugger I've made tons of friends here and I wouldn't change it for the world, Is it really worth leaving over this drama ? ....No course it's not, The site can be draining but it can also be amazing, Clearly you both don't get on so try to work together and try to get along or go your seperate ways and enjoy editing solo, Anyone would think I'm a counsellor right now . –Davey2010Talk 04:01, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
TL565: One wonderful thing about Wikipedia is its expansiveness. There are plenty of neglected, uncontroversial articles and topics—and not just niche ones with little source coverage and few readers but important areas where good editing can make a real difference, many where you can do pretty much anything you want without being bothered. Instead of leaving for good, why not clear your watchlist, at least pare out everything that's conflict-prone, and find a new domain? Just a thought! Rebbing 04:37, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
When someone deliberately stalks your contributions it's hard to avoid interaction. Calibrador (talk) 08:34, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nah Davey

Few deep breaths, several pints, a good sleep, I will give you 48 hours leave and then return to the "hobby" lmfao :) Seriously, you are needed. Irondome (talk) 00:39, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Irondome, Thanks for the wise words :), Haha damnit you can literally read me like a book :), To be honest I wasn't planning on ever returning but I suppose that's what they all say , Anyway thanks for your message which is extremely appreciated, Have a great day :), –Davey2010Talk 01:53, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
At the risk of adding to your laundry woes, I just want to chime in to say I'm much relieved you've decided to stick it out. (I wince so hard at the notifications bar whenever I get multiple messages. It would be nice if the software could have separate icons for pleasant or routine messages and "You done messed up, A-Aron!" Just tell a girl what to expect, you know?) Rebbing 02:29, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Rebbing - Arr thanks :), Same here it would be lovely!, Hahahaha that's made my entire day thank you!! , I love the bit at the end where Tim-othy's like "Pres-ent" , Thanks for that and thanks for your message :), Have a great day, –Davey2010Talk 02:54, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes!! Also, I think there's a small lesson with Timothy: Sometimes, even when you're plainly right and the other person is being both absurd and unreasonable, it's best to cooperate quietly. Rebbing 04:37, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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School merges

Hi Davey - The {{merge-school}} template is quite specific that the discussion should take place at the destination if specified. Which is why I started it a Brentwood, Essex/ There's even a clickable link on it to take you there. CalzGuy (talk) 14:10, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CalzGuy, Think I've gone blind but where's it say that ?, As far as I know all discussions should take place on the article that's being merged otherwise no one will ever know it's planning to be merged?,
Also I've only just realized you'd included a link to the discussion when you put the template up ... something I missed entirely so apologies for that,
Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:22, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Tracy Beaker

Hey, no harm no foul on the franchise nom. I was originally 50/50 when I started typing but then kept finding more to where the term could probably apply here. I figure that when in doubt, it's always good to give it a try when it comes to AfD. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 01:34, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tokyogirl79, I've always associated "franchise" with films, It never really occurred that it could apply to these aswell, Exactly I mean I can always withdraw like I did today, I suppose it's better to be safe than sorry, Anyway thanks for commenting on it :), Have a great day, –Davey2010Talk 02:32, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Davey2010, I just wanted to ask if you would like to reconsider your argument there as you've commented that AfD before another user aded the Hall of Fame induction. I hope, nobody will clame canvassing now, as I don't know how you might decide and just in general wanted to let you know that the Hall of Fame induction and your argument "fails PORN BIO" don't fit together anymore. Regards. --SamWinchester000 (talk) 03:20, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SamWinchester000, Thanks for the heads up, I've changed to redirect ... and kinda went off in to a world of my own lol, Anyway thanks. –Davey2010Talk 03:42, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian dates

Just for a bit of extra context, the issue is that the Canadian editor contingent has never been able to establish a clear consensus for either DMY or MDY — the debates have always bogged down in individual editors' personal preferences for one form or the other rather than any strong evidence that either form is considered standard in Canadian English per se. So our rule for Canada is simply to maintain whichever format the article started with; other than correcting inconsistencies, we don't impose DMY on an article that was started MDY, or vice versa, so that the date formatting doesn't turn into an unproductive edit war about personal preferences. Just wanted to clarify a bit. Bearcat (talk) 16:05, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bearcat, I'm so sorry!, Usually I check Date formats by country before doing any article so I'm not sure why I'd done this article, As you say they use both so it shouldn't of been done, I know there's always issues with DMY v MDY with those that use both so If one article uses both than I leave the article well alone, But anyway thanks for explaining and thanks spotting the error and basically reverting :), Cheers, –Davey2010Talk 16:11, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Checker cabs

I understand you didn't know about Checker. I have left a very distressed note about your (a new discovery for me) bulk uploads on your Commons talk page. Please would you tell me why you make these bulk uploads - so i can tell you why I am so bulk-upload averse. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 01:59, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eddaido, I'll answer your questions over there as it's best to keep everything in one place or in this case on one project lol, Thanks for the message, –Davey2010Talk 02:26, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Since I replied to you on my page and I didn't hear back, I thought I'd stop by and visit. It was interesting how you mentioned "working together" on your last comment and I'd like to ask you how you plan to lead by example on this important principle since I don't find this comment conducive at all to our camaraderie as a team nor our nascent friendship. In fact, another editor agreed that it was uncalled for, provocative and saw why someone could respond like I did, even if it wasn't within Wikipedia rules. In the future, it might be useful to consider how your actions could influence those of others.--Guiletheme (talk) 12:42, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In all fairness Samtar doesn't know the reason why it was said but anyway I've replied on your talkpage so am closing this - Best to keep it all in one place :), Thanks for your message tho. –Davey2010Talk 12:51, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion

Hi Davey2010, regarding the speedy deletion tag you put on the Streetrunner article I created yesterday, you cited CSD:G4. However, the article I created is not a copy of the one that was previously deleted; it is a new article. I felt the main reason the article was deleted the first time around was because it was poorly written and formatted, not because Streetrunner lacks notability. I believe his notability is demonstrated in the article I created. He is also mentioned on 80 different Wikipedia pages, which I know doesn't confer notability, but at least it means he's a prolific producer. Would you be willing to take another look at the article and consider removing the speedy deletion tag? Thank you.--Bernie44 (talk) 01:16, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bernie44, Done ... Although I'm surprised the CSD wasn't removed sooner, I ended up forgetting to check back so thanks for the reminder and thank you for not removing it either :),
You may want to replace cites like LilWayneHQ, HipHopDX and Stacksmag as they're not reliable sources, Other than that the sources look great :),
Thanks again for the poke!, Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 01:25, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I appreciate it. And I agree about LilWayneHQ and Stacks, I'll look for replacements for those. But I think HipHopDX is reliable, it's one of the main hip hop sites around.--Bernie44 (talk) 01:35, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's not substantially different aside from the discography formatting, so I've retagged it. I think we need to consider that this is paid editing from the subject as well; this time it's just not his manager/agent doing it, and frankly, I want to know why this guy thinks he needs a Wikipedia page so bad, as we aren't an advertising platform. We're not going to keep COI material just because the guy who wanted it paid a third party to do it. MSJapan (talk) 01:48, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]