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Hello fellow Wikipedians,


So... from 1941 to 1987, nothing happened at Time (magazine); THAT'S flabbergasting, isn't it? B-class article or Z-class article, that's the question! <span style="font-family: Times; size: small">[[User:Alainr345|<i style="color: #4590ff">AlainR345</i>]][[User talk:Alainr345|<sup style="color: #ffb000">Techno-Wiki-Geek</sup>]]</span> 03:09, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
I have just modified 3 external links on [[Time (magazine)]]. Please take a moment to review [[special:diff/816567496|my edit]]. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit [[User:Cyberpower678/FaQs#InternetArchiveBot|this simple FaQ]] for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120305182439/http://www.timemediakit.com/us/media/bios/stengel.html to http://www.timemediakit.com/us/media/bios/stengel.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090430001058/http://platform.idiomag.com/2009/04/times-foray-into-personalized-publishing-time-mine/ to http://platform.idiomag.com/2009/04/times-foray-into-personalized-publishing-time-mine/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150402200758/http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~business/bhcweb/publications/BEHonline/2011/baughman.pdf to http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~business/bhcweb/publications/BEHonline/2011/baughman.pdf


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== Move citations into refs? ==
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There are multiple places where the article says, "According to Book X, blah...". Would someone like to move those into refs with proper citations (including authors, publisher, isbn numbers, etc)? -- [[User:Gnuish|Gnuish]] ([[User talk:Gnuish|talk]]) 14:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Cheers.—[[User:InternetArchiveBot|'''<span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">InternetArchiveBot</span>''']] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">([[User talk:InternetArchiveBot|Report bug]])</span> 05:29, 22 December 2017 (UTC)


== Time vs. TIME ==
== missing my package ==


Tumu delivered 4/18 /24, I didn't get the package TRACK # IzGG760YW71694317, PLEASE RESPONSE ME I CALLED USPS NO ANSWE [[Special:Contributions/40.135.124.221|40.135.124.221]] ([[User talk:40.135.124.221|talk]]) 07:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Should this page not be for TIME, as opposed to Time, as stated on the magazine's cover and website? While just now changing a page to match this one's lowercase; I realized that I had never seen Time as the name: it ''seemed'' to appear everywhere else as TIME, until Wikipedia made it Time, influencing other publishers to do likewise. [[User:AHampton|AHampton]] ([[User talk:AHampton|talk]]) 17:49, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
:Does this help? [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization)]]. [[User:BeenAroundAWhile|BeenAroundAWhile]] ([[User talk:BeenAroundAWhile|talk]]) 16:53, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks, {{user|BeenAroundAWhile}}—I'd missed your note. [[User:AHampton|AHampton]] ([[User talk:AHampton|talk]]) 19:53, 31 October 2019 (UTC)—

== List of countries in infobox ==

I removed them because nowhere was it specified exactly what the list means. [[User:BeenAroundAWhile|BeenAroundAWhile]] ([[User talk:BeenAroundAWhile|talk]]) 16:50, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

== magazine's publication frequency ==

As of January 2021, Time is published on a biweekly basis, not weekly. This is stated in fine print at the bottom of page 2 of the Jan. 18/Jan. 25 issue. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.76.24.149|75.76.24.149]] ([[User talk:75.76.24.149#top|talk]]) 02:31, 27 January 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I changed the category to bi-weekly, so if this isn't true please revert it. --- <span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';">Mullafacation</span> &#123;[[User_talk:Mullafacation|talk page]]&#124;[[User:Mullafacation|user page]]&#125; 15:51, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

== Orphaned references in [[:Time (magazine)]] ==

I check pages listed in [[:Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting]] to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for [[User:AnomieBOT/docs/OrphanReferenceFixer|orphaned references]] in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of [[:Time (magazine)]]'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for ''this'' article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

<b>Reference named "Wilson":</b><ul>
<li>From [[False title]]: {{citation | last = Wilson | first = Kenneth G. | year = 1993 | title = The Columbia Guide to Standard American English | publisher = Columbia University Press | pages = 188–189 | isbn = 978-0-231-06989-2 | url = https://books.google.com/books?id=L2ChiO2yEZ0C&pg=PA188 | access-date = 2009-05-23}}.</li>
<li>From [[Robert Wright (journalist)]]: {{cite web|title=Articles by: Robert Wright|url=http://www.wilsonquarterly.com/search_result.cfm?fSearch=Robert%20Wright&fSearchType=a&bSearch=Search|work=wilsonquarterly.com|publisher=The Wilson Quarterly|access-date=26 August 2011}}{{dead link|date=December 2017 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}</li>
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#880">⚡</span>]] 10:15, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

:Dear bot,
:Thanks for catching this. I fixed it. --[[User:Macrakis|Macrakis]] ([[User talk:Macrakis|talk]]) 14:52, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

== Recent changes in editorial slant ==


Most of the info is out of date or historical in context. We need something to reflect the newer aspects of the magazine. [[User:BeenAroundAWhile|BeenAroundAWhile]] ([[User talk:BeenAroundAWhile|talk]]) 00:36, 16 September 2021 (UTC)


==Proposed elimination of unneeded parenthesis in article title ==
Wikipedia is not the first to ponder how to refer to the magazine. Both [https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/CapitalizationTitles/faq0059.html the Chicago Manual of Style] and [https://writingexplained.org/ap-style/ap-style-magazine-names AP style guidelines] among others have agreed upon "Time magazine". I suggest we do likewise. Any counter-arguments or discussion? Otherwise I will propose this move. -- [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation]] ([[User talk:Infrogmation|talk]])
:Hi {{ping|Infrogmation}}. It looks like we're continuing our conversation from Commons. I don't know much about Commons, but I'm pretty well versed in Wikipedia style. Here, the article [[Time]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC|primary topic]] for the word ''time'' (the continued sequence of existence and events that occurs in an apparently irreversible succession from the past, through the present, into the future). We have [[Time (disambiguation)]] which lists a lot of things called "Time"; especially note the long list of films, albums and songs, all of which have some term to disambiguate the word ''time'' following in parentheses.

:Wikipedia doesn't uses the title "Time (magazine)" because it thinks that is the correct title any more than the article titles we have chosen for [[The Ring (magazine)|''The Ring'' (magazine)]], [[Life (magazine)|''Life'' (magazine)]], [[Ms. (magazine)|''Ms.'' (magazine)]] or [[New York (magazine)|''New York'' (magazine)]]. The text in parentheses is for disambiguation. Similar to ''The Ring'', ''Life'', ''Ms.'' and ''New York'', the title of the magazine we are dealing with is ''Time''. It has had various subtitles or slogans over the years, but those are not the title. For example, at [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation]], it shows articles "titled [[Mercury (element)]], [[Mercury (planet)]] and [[Mercury (mythology)]]." The text "(magazine)" is similar to the text "(element)", "(planet)" and "(mythology)".

:Your example from ''[[The Chicago Manual of Style|Chicago]]'' shows "''Time'' magazine" in running text, but I'm pretty sure in a reference or if it was clear from context that it was a magazine, it would just say ''Time''. The second from Writing Explained, says that the ''[[AP Stylebook]]'' would recommend:
:{{blockquote|
:*''Men’s Health''
:*''Better Homes and Gardens''
:*''Time magazine''
:*''W magazine''}}

:I'd like to see the ''AP Stylebook'' on that directly because I think Writing Explained is wrong about ''Time'' and ''[[W (magazine)|W]]''. The word "magazine" should not be in italics.

:I think the present article title is right for Wikipedia, though something different may work better at Commons.&nbsp;[[User:SchreiberBike|SchreiberBike&nbsp;]]&#124;[[User talk:SchreiberBike#top|&nbsp;⌨&nbsp;]] 03:59, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' as I noted as Common the reason why sources use the lower case magazine is to say that "magazine" isn't part of the name which is why its in brackets here similar to Mercury though the element is a common noun so could be lower cased if that was common but it isn't. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 08:43, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' --[[User:Broichmore|Broichmore]] ([[User talk:Broichmore|talk]]) 14:52, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

:'''Support''' I support the move to "Time magazine" or "Time Magazine", in accordance with the [[WP:TITLEDAB]] policy (natural disambiguation is preferred over parenthetical disambiguation) and the [[WP:TITLETM]] policy ("Items in full or partial uppercase (such as Invader ZIM) should have standard capitalization (Invader Zim)"). The official name is irrelevant -- the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] policy specifically says "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used". Many writers use the phrase "Time magazine" (with lowercase "m") to unambiguously refer to this magazine (rather than, say, it's parent company). If that's the "most common" unambiguous phrase, then that's what Wikipedia policies say we should use as the title. (Whether or not it's part of the name). (Related: "[[Apple keyboards]]" and "[[Google search engine]]" suggested by the article [https://venturegainedlegal.com/blog/2017/9/15/why-you-shouldneveruse-your-brand-names-as-a-nouns-or-verbs "Why you should never use your brand name as a noun or verb"], and "[[Lego bricks]]" suggested by [https://www.inta.org/fact-sheets/trademark-use/ the International Trademark Association]). (I'm fine with shortening it to merely "Time" in the running text). --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] ([[User talk:DavidCary|talk]]) 18:30, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

*'''Oppose''' Many magazine articles use parentheses to disambiguate. In addition to the titles mentioned above, examples are [[Look (American magazine)]], [[Look (UK magazine)]], [[Vanity Fair (magazine)]], [[Vanity Fair (British magazine)]], [[Vanity Fair (American magazine 1913–1936)]] , and many others in [[:Category:Magazines published in the United States]], [[:Category:Defunct magazines published in the United States]], and [[:Category:Defunct magazines published in the United Kingdom]]. That naming system seems clear, and this article title should be left as it is unless there's consensus to change the whole scheme. — [[User:WFinch|WFinch]] ([[User talk:WFinch|talk]]) 15:17, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

:: Note a related discussion [[Talk:Time (magazine)#Move to Time Magazine?|above]]. — [[User:WFinch|WFinch]] ([[User talk:WFinch|talk]]) 16:07, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 07:48, 29 April 2024


So... from 1941 to 1987, nothing happened at Time (magazine); THAT'S flabbergasting, isn't it? B-class article or Z-class article, that's the question! AlainR345Techno-Wiki-Geek 03:09, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Time (Magazine) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 21 § Time (Magazine) until a consensus is reached. Nickps (talk) 22:15, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move citations into refs?[edit]

There are multiple places where the article says, "According to Book X, blah...". Would someone like to move those into refs with proper citations (including authors, publisher, isbn numbers, etc)? -- Gnuish (talk) 14:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

missing my package[edit]

Tumu delivered 4/18 /24, I didn't get the package TRACK # IzGG760YW71694317, PLEASE RESPONSE ME I CALLED USPS NO ANSWE 40.135.124.221 (talk) 07:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]